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Joining Rick and Ben this week if Death Cab for Cutie frontman, Ben Gibbard.
An accomplished ultra runner as well as a musician, Ben's journey into running is a fascinating one and he's so into it, he's even designed his own running shoe!
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"Ben Gibbard talks ultras, sobriety, music on the run much more" is an episode of Runner's World Podcast. Runtime 38 min. Published June 2, 2026. Hit play above to stream it here, or open the free Spot Sports app for background play and offline downloads.