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4.21. The Hate Mail Episode

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4.21. The Hate Mail Episode

Nobody Asked Us with Des & Kara›
May 20, 20261:02:26

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Cue the comments section. We think this one is going to get a lot of attention - good and bad.

It was a slower-news, running week, so there were a lot of angry runners arguing on social media about silly (?) things. Naturally, Des and Kara have to weigh in because many of you did already.

But first (!)... Kara gives us a recap of Colt's amazing run in the 2-mile at state, after correcting the record on his 800m PR. His race at state was full of surges, but he finished higher than his seed in 14th and now is exciting to head to the Brooks PR meet. Meanwhile, Des is enjoying her time off from training but is now feeling the urge to get started again before this becomes a permanent break. 

Then, they dig into the drama with reactions about the Satisfy Running debate, where many people (particularly in the trail world) are frustrated about how they are showing up in the sport. Satisfy is a new-ish running shoe and apparel brand. Their gear is really expensive, but should we be mad about it? As a fun side question on this debate, Kara was asked: "Is she sad that she missed the NIL era with her own college career?" 

Next, they weigh in on the Cam Hanes vs. Sage Cannaday showdown on the socials. Sage turned Cam into USADA for openly admitting to using banned substances in his build-up to the Eugene Marathon (where he won his age group and placed 2nd Masters). Many people are mad at Sage on social media, defending Cam since there was no money or Team USA spot on the line. The Eugene Marathon, however, is a USATF-sanctioned event where there are rules against doping, amateur or not. What is the obligation of the amateur to follow anti-doping rules and do we want USADA or WADA worried about enforcement for the entire field? This topic is trickier than you think, when you dig into the nuance of it. What do you think?!

Note: Kara mistakenly said Cam's time at Eugene was 2:37. He ran 2:39:11. 

Finally along with a top 5, they get to the real crux of the episode. Are you a Minnesota or Irish goodbye person and when is the Irish goodbye ok?!? Plus... Des and Kara give a huge shout-out and some advice to listeners Nick and Avery on their upcoming wedding!

Now, go pick up your pillow from Lagoon - the Otter or the "Thin"-Chilla (as Des dubbed it). Use code NOBODYASKEDUS for 15% off on your first order here: https://lagoonsleep.com/pages/lagoon-the-nobody-asked-us-podcast-from-kara-goucher-and-des-linden

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