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In this episode of the Dirt & Vert Podcast, Matt and I sit down with an amazing runner, coach, and longtime friend of East Coast Adventures: Leslie Cockrell.
We first met Leslie back at the 2023 Fort Frenzy 12-hour, and since then, she has been an absolute fixture in our running community. Leslie takes us through her entire progression—starting out running during COVID, jumping into a 22-mile mountain retreat in Glacier National Park, and diving headfirst into the ultra scene with a 52-miler and two 100-mile finishes in her very first year of racing.
We talk about the hard physical lessons learned along the way: fixing severe glute imbalances, navigating waist-deep water in Florida mangrove swamps at the Vero Beach Octopus 50K, and pacing her husband Jeremy through the brutal climbs of the Cherokee 70K. Leslie also gets real about her first DNF at the Great Divide, opening up about the mental traps that convince us to quit, why the regret of stopping hurts ten times worse than the physical pain, and how failing forward gives you the belief to tackle your next 100.
Key Topics
Leslie's journey from casual runner to ultra marathoner
Training and race preparation for ultras
Lessons learned from race experiences and DNF moments
Importance of community and support in ultra running
Heat training and race day strategies
Balancing personal development and athletic goals Leslie's transition from rodeo to ultrarunning
Crewing experiences and lessons learned
The emotional and physical challenges of ultramarathons
The importance of community and support in racing
How to handle a DNF and learn from it
Race directing and creating positive race experiences
Balancing coaching with personal racing goals
The mental strategies for endurance sports
The significance of race environment and organization
Leslie's future race goals and motivations
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"The Medicine from the Mountains: Leslie Cockrell on Ultrarunning, Regret, and Building True Strength" is an episode of Dirt And Vert. Runtime 1 hr 46 min. Published September 26, 2026. Hit play above to stream it here, or open the free Spot Sports app for background play and offline downloads.