#11 NeverSecond with Bill Armstrong

Bill Armstrong, co-founder of Neversecond, joins the show to break down one of the biggest shifts happening in endurance sports today… fueling.

For years, endurance athletes were told to take in minimal carbohydrates during training and racing. That approach shaped how runners fueled for decades. But as the sport has evolved, so has the understanding of how much fueling actually impacts performance.

In this episode, Steve Gonser sits down with Bill to unpack the full story behind Neversecond and the evolution of modern fueling strategies. From early misconceptions around carbohydrate intake to the breakthrough of multiple transportable carbohydrates, Bill explains how the science has progressed and why athletes are now fueling at levels once thought impossible.

The conversation goes beyond theory and into application. They discuss what happens physiologically when you underfuel, how fueling impacts performance late in races, and why consistency and precision matter more than most runners realize.

Bill also shares the origin of Neversecond, the gap he saw between research and real-world products, and how the company set out to build a system that athletes could trust and execute on race day.

If you’ve ever hit the wall, struggled to maintain pace late in a run, or felt unsure about how to fuel… this episode will give you a clearer framework to work from.

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