Claudio Berardelli | Coach of Sabastian Sawe and Emmanuel Wanyonyi on world records, future targets and life in Kenya

Courtesy of our sponsors Maurten, Italian coach Claudio Berardelli joins us for remarkably open and honest extended interview.

The coach behind the success of marathon world record holder Sabastian Sawe - the first man under 2 hours in race conditions - and 800m Olympic and world champion Emmanuel Wanyonyi, covers a huge range of topics.

In the first half, we discuss Claudio’s unconventional journey to become a running coach (having previously raced as a cyclist and studied sports science), the highs and lows of living and coaching in Kenya - including the doping culture that is casting a shadow over the country, including past athletes he has worked with - and his coaching techniques.

In the second half, Claudio gives an insight into Sawe’s remarkable run in London and talks about his targets in the future, including the Olympics and more technical courses. We also talk about Wanyonyi’s chances of breaking the 800m world record, whether he could move up in distance, and tactical plans for the New York City Marathon - where Benson Kipruto leads the men’s field.

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Presented by athletics commentators Hannah England and Rich Newman, with guest contributor Jake Wightman.

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