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The Phillies are winning, but the performance of most their roster doesn't really reflect that. Their (lack of) depth required them to trade two players in June for outfield help. It all feels so tenuous, despite the record. Paul has a moment while continuing to try and come to grips with that, and Matt offers his theory. Plus: Gabriel Rincones, Jr., more Trea Turner, and a quick assessment of needs six weeks out from the deadline.
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"What to Make of Any of This" is an episode of Phillies Therapy. Runtime 47 min. Published June 16, 2026. Hit play above to stream it here, or open the free Spot Sports app for background play and offline downloads.