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The Ascent Rugby Series miniseries continues. Carl talks to Niel Otto of The Dukes, Den Bosch, before their opening festival in Frankfurt — and the weekend after, when the Dukes host one of their own.
Niel was at Griquas in the Currie Cup. His contract ended at 27 and he had all but decided to stop playing and go into strength and conditioning. He moved to the Netherlands, Googled the nearest rugby club just to meet people, and came off the bench on debut in Amsterdam — in the worst weather he'd ever played in — to score a hat-trick.
On the step between levels: it isn't that the top is more physical, it's that the error rate is lower and mistakes get punished. On the Dukes reaching their first final in ten years and losing one they feel was theirs. And on continuity — keeping a core together season to season — as the thing that got them back there.
Plus a first opponent nobody can scout, young players with a real chance to stake a claim, and the weekend the Dukes host: a rugby day that has turned into a festival, a town built for it, and the thousand people who came back to the clubhouse after they lost the final anyway.
🎟️ ascentrugby.com · 📺 Festival #01 live on RugbyPass, with Carl on co-commentary.
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"He Nearly Quit — Then Scored a Hat-Trick on Debut — Niel Otto, The Dukes" is an episode of Rugby Through The Leagues Podcast. Runtime 24 min. Published August 21, 2026. Hit play above to stream it here, or open the free Spot Sports app for background play and offline downloads.