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First, Matthew Tynan and Trevor Zickgraf jump into a conversation about the re-emergence of Jeremy Sochan in the Spurs' rotation before talking about Mitch Johnson's decision tree when it comes to those lineups.
Then, after the break, a conversation about how important Devin Vassell has been to the team's success this season, and thoughts about the type of approach San Antonio should be taking as the countdown to the trade deadline keeps ticking.
Episode produced by Tyler Prince.
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"The state of the Spurs, and early trade deadline discussion" is an episode of Small Market Bias: A San Antonio Spurs Podcast. Runtime 55 min. Published January 9, 2026. Hit play above to stream it here, or open the free Spot Sports app for background play and offline downloads.