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Tony Brown is BACK with the All Blacks… but should New Zealand rugby be looking wider than just coaches?
In this week’s Rugby Rivals, JK and Victor Matfield go head-to-head over Tony Brown’s return and ask a provocative question: if rugby is happy to bring in overseas coaches, why not overseas players?
The boys also break down a huge weekend of rugby as the Bulls charge into the final, while JK’s Blues somehow sneak their way into the Super Rugby semi-finals.
Then there’s the Nations Cup… once JK and Victor finally work out what it actually is.
Plus: Will Rassie Erasmus use the upcoming Rugby Championship and Rivals tour to experiment? What does it really mean for an All Black to tour South Africa? And has New Zealand Rugby missed a massive opportunity by letting one of its brightest talents shine offshore?
Big opinions. Strong disagreement. Plenty of laughs.

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"JK and Victor Clash Over Tony Brown’s All Blacks Return" is an episode of Rugby Rivals - Sir John Kirwan & Victor Matfield. Runtime 34 min. Published June 8, 2026. Hit play above to stream it here, or open the free Spot Sports app for background play and offline downloads.