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Steven Rinella talks with author Isaac Fitzgerald.
Topics discussed: Isaac's new book, American Rambler: Walking the Trail of Johnny Appleseed; the true story of Johnny Appleseed (John Chapman) versus the mythologized version; land speculation, westward expansion, and environmental impact; Appleseed's religious influence; the role of storytelling in shaping national legends; the role of apples and cider in American history; John's role in the War of 1812; and more.
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"Ep. 886: Who Was the Real Johnny Appleseed?" is an episode of The MeatEater Podcast. Runtime 1 hr 32 min. Published June 8, 2026. Hit play above to stream it here, or open the free Spot Sports app for background play and offline downloads.