The Giants are emerging as an NFC East dark horse, but how aggressive should they be before the trade deadline? Patricia Traina welcomes NFL insider Jordan Schultz to assess New York’s 3-1 start, Jameis Winston’s leadership, and why the JJ McCarthy trade won’t immediately threaten Jaxson Dart’s role.

The conversation covers Kayvon Thibodeaux’s market, and the impact of Brian Burns’ injury. Schultz also explains why the Giants could be a 9- or 10-win team, evaluates Philadelphia, Dallas, and Washington in the NFC East, and identifies the NFL’s real contenders and pretenders.

The discussion also tackles officiating accountability, publicly suspended referees, full-time officials, and the league’s handling of criticism.

*** Note: This interview was taped on Friday.***

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