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Former Strikeforce World Champion, UFC veteran, Bellator star, and Weighing In podcast host Josh Thomson joins Brendan Schaub and Bryan Callen to break down the UFC White House card, Alex Pereira vs Ciryl Gane, Michael Chandler's future, Belal Muhammad's championship run, fighter aging, media criticism in combat sports, and the biggest questions facing MMA today. The guys also discuss Josh Thomson's transition from fighting to media, Big John McCarthy's return to officiating, youth sports, lacrosse, fighter development, wrestling vs striking, Jon Jones' legacy, and whether Alex Pereira can become one of the greatest combat sports athletes ever.
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"Josh Thomson & Brendan Schaub Debate Alex Pereira vs Ciryl Gane | TFATK Ep. 1196" is an episode of The Fighter & The Kid. Runtime 2 hr 10 min. Published June 9, 2026. Hit play above to stream it here, or open the free Spot Sports app for background play and offline downloads.