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Dave Dombrowski and Don Mattingly met with members of the media en masse for the first time since the Phillies' elimination two weeks ago. There are no sweeping answers to the many questions surrounding what the Phillies' plan is this offseason, but staring down their tallest task in the last five years, the Phillies will need to do plenty if they want to make a sixth straight playoff appearance.
We talk offseason: What we know, what we don't know, and what the heck this offseason could possibly look like if the Phillies are to become what they believe will, at last, get them over the World Series hump.
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"Out of the Bunker, Into the Light" is an episode of Phillies Therapy. Runtime 1 hr 4 min. Published October 16, 2026. Hit play above to stream it here, or open the free Spot Sports app for background play and offline downloads.