Steve Hansen & Ewen McKenzie: Bulls v All Blacks, Wallabies v Japan + Mo'unga news!

Loftus Versfeld is calling, and the All Blacks are building towards the Springboks with every selection call under the microscope. After a wet Durban night and a special Ma’a Nonu haka moment, the focus snaps to the Bulls, altitude, and a tougher South African test.

David Pembroke is joined by Steve Hansen and Ewen McKenzie to dissect the Sharks match, the discipline and scrum details the refs are hot on, and why the high-ball contest matters so much for the coming Tests. The boys also unpack World Rugby’s new protocol for coach-referee meetings and tighter TMO involvement, then head to Townsville where Les Kiss makes eight Wallabies changes for the Eddie Jones-coached Japan rematch. Plus: a grim Deloitte warning on Super Rugby’s future, and updates from around the rugby world.

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In this episode:
00:00 🩺 Ewen McKenzie back surgery update with David Pembroke
01:24 ✈️ Richie Mo'unga joins All Blacks squad in South Africa
02:03 🧢 Ardie Savea returns as All Blacks captain on tour
02:38 🥋 Ma’a Nonu responds to All Blacks haka at Kings Park
04:32 🌧️ All Blacks v Sharks review: discipline and wet handling
06:16 🎯 High ball technique talk for All Blacks wingers
07:06 🧱 Ewen McKenzie on All Blacks intent and second row impact
09:00 🏟️ Bulls at Loftus Versfeld: Papier, Bosch, Willie le Roux
11:25 🧠 Steve Hansen on All Blacks selection clues for Springboks Tests
18:05 ⚖️ World Rugby coach-referee meetings: five clips, both coaches
24:10 🖥️ TMO protocol: “If it’s gray, stay away” from World Rugby
29:00 🇦🇺 Wallabies v Japan: Les Kiss makes eight changes
33:50 🇯🇵 Eddie Jones tweaks Japan for Townsville rematch
44:00 🧷 Scrum break foot debate and Springboks first scrum pressure
50:10 💬 Third Voice: Dylan Pledger at halfback behind Roigard
58:40 📉 Deloitte report warns Super Rugby cannot continue unchanged
01:02:50 🌎 Uruguay coaching change and Rugby World Cup build-up

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