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Coaching can’t be emotional whiplash. Steve Hansen and Ewen McKenzie spell out how the best coaches stay consistent, find solutions fast, and keep teams improving when the noise gets loud.
David Pembroke steers a wide-ranging episode: the mindset shifts that matter, what World Rugby must fix at the Windsor coaches summit before Rugby World Cup 2027, and why yellow cards and TMO processes are warping contests. Then it’s onto a huge weekend of rugby: Wallaroos v Scotland, Black Ferns v France, and the Canada v England series decider in Ottawa with the Utrecht Shield in play. There’s also Eddie Jones’ Japan v Fiji preview (with Jake White in charge of Fiji), plus a hard conversation about Australian playmaking depth, talent identification, and keeping young prospects from being lost to league or offshore deals.
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In this episode:
00:00 🎙️ David Pembroke returns and opens on coaching mindset
01:00 🧠 Steve Hansen: competitiveness as strength and weakness
04:00 🧩 Ewen McKenzie on apprenticeships under Eddie Jones
07:00 ⏱️ McKenzie: Monday answers, pressers, and consistency
11:00 📊 Hansen: focus on performance, not win or lose
13:00 ⚖️ Hansen on balance, family time, and recovery days
16:00 🏰 World Rugby Windsor meeting and Rugby World Cup 2027
17:00 🟨 McKenzie: yellow cards hurting 15 v 15 contests
19:00 🧑⚖️ Hansen: simplify rugby, fix TMO, stop secrecy
24:00 🏉 WXV: Wallaroos v Scotland and Canberra Stadium
26:00 🌿 Black Ferns v France in Whangārei preview
30:00 🛡️ Canada v England decider and Utrecht Shield
40:00 🇯🇵 Eddie Jones’ Japan v Fiji, Jake White coaching Fiji
42:00 🎓 Japan university rugby: Ito, Jisu Lee, Otsuka unavailable
43:00 🇺🇸 Nashville fixtures: Australia A, USA, and more rugby
45:00 📸 Third Voice: Steve Hansen photo
48:00 🔁 Wallabies talent debate: League poaching, pathways
59:00 🗞️ News: Megan Rose role, Woolworths and Isuzu sponsors
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