Talking Ohio St. vs Michigan With Will Howard, Jack Sawyer, & A Surprise Guest | Not Just Football

Cam Heyward and Hayden Walsh kick off rivalry week with a massive episode previewing the Ohio State vs Michigan game. They’re joined by Jack Sawyer and Will Howard of the Pittsburgh Steelers; both former Buckeyes, to break down what this matchup means, how Ohio State can bounce back, and what makes “The Game” the greatest rivalry in sports. Then, surprise guest Rich Eisen crashes the show to defend Michigan and trade classic smack talk with Cam.

In this episode:

🏈 Deep dive into the Ohio State vs Michigan rivalry, from history to high stakes

🎙️ Jack Sawyer and Will Howard reflect on last year’s loss and what’s different this season

😤 Cam compares Steelers vs. Ravens to the intensity of Ohio State vs. Michigan

💬 Rich Eisen joins the debate, brings classic Michigan energy, and delivers some hilarious moments

📣 Cam and Hayden also look ahead to the Steelers’ matchup vs the Buffalo Bills, breaking down what Pittsburgh needs to do to take the W.

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0:00 Intro
1:42 Michigan vs Ohio St. Best Rivalry In Sports?
5:25 Need a W vs Michigan
6:10 Nipple Ring Preview
6:50 Will Howard & Jack Sawyer
8:10 Mindset Going Into Game
9:23 Looking Back At Loss vs Michigan
12:19 Ryan Day After Loss vs Michigan
14:00 Does Ryan Day Have A Nipple Ring?
14:35 Ryan Day's Colored Beard
15:13 How Michigan Will Defend Jeremiah Smith
17:31 Anything Surprise You In Loss vs Michigan?
19:08 How Different This Week vs Any Other Week
23:19 When Will First Found Out About Rivalry
25:28 Comparing To NFL Rivalries
27:03 Will & Jack Going To Classes
27:35 Wagers On The Line?
28:08 Comparing To Ravens/Steelers Rivalry
29:54 Rookie Season Check In
30:28 Jack Forgot Donuts
32:35 Will Howard's Rookie Season
33:47 Improving As A Team
36:45 Big Brothers On Team
38:28 College Playbook to NFL Playbook
40:31 Missing College Life?
42:03 Talk to Connor Stalions?
43:41 Rich Eisen Joins
47:05 Mad Seeing Ohio St. Win Championship?
48:26 Importance Of Game
51:18 Does Ryan Day Have A Nipple Ring?
52:32 Snow Game
54:06 Wager?
56:36 Is There A Flag Planned?
58:05 Coaches During Fight
59:09 First Pro Season
1:00:14 Previewing The Bills
1:02:44 THIS or THAT
1:07:57 Ask Cam Anything
1:08:21 Favorite Pizza In Pittsburgh?
1:09:20 Best Advice From Father?
1:12:13 Bigger Rival: Michigan or Ravens?
1:12:49 Ask Hayden Anything
1:13:01 Favorite Ohio st. Michigan Moment?
1:13:44 Cam's TD vs Michigan
1:14:27 Hayden's Reaction To Cam's Ohio St. Commitment
1:15:21 Hayden & Intern Shawn Pretending To Be Recruits
1:16:32 Favorite Memory Coming Up To Ohio St.?
1:17:35 Hayden's Stolen Jacket Story
1:18:25 Outro