The Ex-Pro Wrestler at War with the NFL on CTE | PTFO

Chris Nowinski was a WWE heel. Then he got in on a secret the NFL allegedly has been trying to hide for more than a decade: There may be nothing worse you can do to your brain than play tackle football. In the wake of a landmark study of CTE, America's foremost brain collector sits down with Pablo about his war with the league, the effectiveness of the Guardian Cap, the last word on O.J. Simpson's brain and, yes, some good news on the horizon.

Further content:

• "Study's Alarming Finding: At Least 1 in 4 N.F.L. Players Gets Brain Disease" (The New York Times): nytimes.com/2026/08/25/us/nfl-cte-brain-disease.html

• "The Life and Death of Chris Eitzmann" (The Athletic): nytimes.com/athletic/3128081/2022/03/10/from-small-town-nebraska-to-harvard-captain-to-tom-bradys-housemate-the-life-and-death-of-chris-eitzmann

• Previously on PTFO — How We Forgot About CTE: youtube.com/watch

• Submit your confidential tips to Pablo: pablo.show/tips

(If you're dealing with a recent concussion, symptoms or concerns about CTE, contact the Concussion & CTE Foundation's help line: concussionandcte.org/helpline)

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