The mindset of “someone else will do it”

Name: The mindset of “someone else will do it”
Uploaded: 2026-06-23T17:00:15.000Z
Duration: 1 min 32 s

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Steven Rinella Ryan Callaghan

Steven Rinella talks with Backcountry Hunters and Anglers President and CEO Ryan Callaghan.

Topics discussed: Cal’s life as a new dad and new CEO; the BHA mission; creating coalitions, community, and giving a shit; how our natural resources are not guaranteed; politicians claiming to carry TR’s torch; throwing the baby out with the bathwater in regards to regulation; approaching rollbacks and management changes with clarity; motivation behind scrapping the Roadless Rule; the pitfalls of absolutism; corner crossing; being engaged in the minutiae; and more.

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