Rebecca Roache is associate professor of philosophy at the University of London, and host of The Academic Imperfectionist podcast. Her book,”For F*ck's Sake: Why Swearing is Shocking, Rude, and Fun” will be published by Oxford University Press in November 2023.

You’ll hear her fascinating story about a later-in-life start to running and why she runs without shoes. Plus, insights on how swearing can help your running!

In this conversation we talk about failure–how it sucks and most of us avoid it. But, Rebecca says you should look failure square in the face and learn from it. She shares lessons from a recent failure: 20 miles into running a marathon barefoot she opted for a DNF (did not finish).

This was one of many chats I’ve had with Rebecca, and I love each one. She’s witty and wise, plus that British accent! I hope you enjoy this one as much as I did.