The second United States-Brazil match had it all: eight red cards, an own goal and the Americans’ first victory in Brazil since 1997.

Host Jillian Sakovits is joined by The Athletic’s Meg Linehan to break down the play on the field and the misconduct, including the ejection of Brazil manager Arthur Elias. Then, Meg and Jill look back at the history of the rivalry and look ahead to what it might mean for a potential U.S.-Brazil clash at the 2027 World Cup – and whether legend Marta might actually say goodbye on home turf.

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HOST: Jillian Sakovits, Meg Linehan

This podcast was produced by The Athletic.

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Referenced on the show:

Red-card clash the latest in a fierce USWNT-Brazil rivalry: ‘A team that broke our hearts’

Brazil outraged after red cards in USWNT defeat: ‘The players were disrespected’

Brazil shown 8 red cards in physical 1-0 loss to USWNT

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