Trevor Giampa doesn't call himself the best hybrid athlete — he says there's no such competition. He just refuses to accept the idea that chasing a goal in the gym has to cost him a goal on the course.

In this episode of The Running Effect Podcast, Dominic sits down with Trevor to unpack six years of all-out hybrid training and the results that have people convinced he must be cheating: a 2:28 Boston Marathon and a 315-pound bench in the same week, treadmill marathons followed by 15+ reps at 225, and 100-mile weeks paired with powerlifter-style strength work.

Trevor makes the case that "hybrid athlete = mediocre at both" is a myth, that antagonistic goals aren't really antagonistic if you build for them, and that your genetics improve the harder and longer you work. He's done it all as a natural athlete who has never had a sip of coffee, a drink of alcohol, or a single PED — and he explains why the constant doping accusations only fuel his mission to show people what a natural body is capable of.

They also get into his diet (max protein, max carbs, ground beef and rice, venison, kiwis for vitamin C), his recovery philosophy (build a bigger capacity, skip the gadgets), his gym split, the caffeine debate, his move into ultras, and how his Catholic faith became the center of his content and his goals.

00:00 — Welcome & the late-night recording sacrifice
00:36 — How Trevor defines a "hybrid athlete"
01:05 — Real hybrid athlete vs. chasing social media clout
02:11 — Nick Bear, the BPN community, and breaking the "mediocre at both" stereotype
04:28 — His most impressive feat: 2:28 Boston Marathon + 315 bench in the same week
05:13 — What's harder, running or lifting? Genetics and training load
07:44 — Same-day treadmill feats (45-mile run → bench; 2:26 treadmill marathon → bench)
08:18 — Why you lose reps benching right after a run (blood flow)
08:56 — Height, weight, and race weight (5'9", ~185 lbs)
09:44 — Why shorter is better for running ("short kings")
10:10 — Handling constant doping allegations as a natural athlete
11:01 — Peptides, caffeine, creatine, and the "natty or not" spectrum
13:32 — Why PEDs make no sense if you value the work
14:42 — The supplement stack: creatine, magnesium, and kiwis for vitamin C
15:50 — Diet philosophy: max protein, max carbs, eat around your training
18:00 — Daily calories and protein (~3,500 cal / ~200g)
18:51 — Meal prep, Costco, and almost never eating out
19:12 — Hypothetical: would he promote caffeine for a BPN sponsorship?
21:00 — The caffeine debate and the "alpha flies" analogy
22:55 — Caffeine timing, G1M Sport, and the downside of race-day coffee
23:30 — Bicarb and legal performance aids
24:07 — Which BPN athlete would he race — and at what distance?
24:40 — The gym split: stacking leg day on your hardest run days
26:30 — Push/pull/legs, weekly frequency, and injury-prevention work
27:10 — Shout-out to Dr. Bill Evans
28:02 — Parents, his brother, and whether the genetics are really "crazy"
29:21 — "Your genetics get better the harder you work"
30:53 — Goal announcement: 2:25 marathon + 225×25 bench, same day, before 25
31:37 — Recovery: build a bigger capacity, not a bigger gadget collection
33:36 — Progressive overload vs. just maintaining muscle
34:47 — Does he recommend this lifestyle? Why hybrid is the future of fitness
36:23 — Dream sponsorships and faith-aligned brands (Barbell Apparel, Mark Dowdle)
39:46 — Trevor's faith journey and weaving it into his content
41:37 — Sacrificing training time for faith — and being blessed in return
42:27 — Killing the excuses: a full-time job and 84-hour work weeks
43:25 — How he trained around 12-hour refinery shifts in the dark
45:20 — The David Goggins comparison and his (slightly) saner schedule now
47:41 — The messages that keep him posting
48:16 — His "what if": deciding to start posting content
50:31 — Closing thoughts

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