This week, Jake and Mick sit down with Aaron Kubala, who's in the middle of an incredible run at the Triple Crown of 200s—and chasing a record that could put his name alongside one of the biggest names in ultrarunning.

But before he can get to Moab, Aaron had to survive Bigfoot 200, where a bizarre situation with his pacer resulted in a three-hour penalty. Aaron walks the guys through exactly what happened, how he handled losing three hours deep into a 200-mile race, and why he still believes the Triple Crown record is within reach.

The guys also discuss the growing debate around Hardrock's transgender and non-binary participation policy, what the policy actually says, and some of the questions it raises for ultrarunning as the sport continues to evolve.

Plus, plenty of discussion about the Triple Crown, 200-mile racing, and what it takes to chase records at the absolute limits of the sport.

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