For Ref's Sake! - The podcast for football referees everywhere!

Like many young referees, Lucas Brace was a player and earning a bit of cash as a hobby. Upon reaching 16, he hung up the playing boots taking the brave step into adult refereeing.

Lucas talks about the challenges and the realistic goals he has set himself. A lovely episode to hear from a young referee talk so well.

Luke and Wayne also discuss the quality of ginger referees in the County and all the latest talking points!