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The Moana Pasifika Problem: Eddie Jones and Ewen McKenzie

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The Moana Pasifika Problem: Eddie Jones and Ewen McKenzie

Rugby Unity›
Apr 17, 20261:05:19

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Rugby Unity turns the spotlight on a hard truth: in Victoria, rugby union is fighting for oxygen while AFL and the Melbourne Storm keep winning hearts, crowds and talent. David Pembroke, Eddie Jones and Ewen McKenzie unpack what the AFL gets right (simple product, relentless promotion, tradition with modern polish) and why rugby is slipping, from missing pathways post-Rebels to a lack of media cut-through. The chat rolls into Super Rugby uncertainty, Moana Pasifika’s financial worries, and what rugby “owes” the Pacific as the NRL builds academies and pathways with real cash behind them. There’s still hope in the grassroots, with Eddie’s Japan Under 23s tour and strong club rugby energy, plus sharp takes on referee communication, Retallick’s longevity, and promotion and relegation for the Nations Cup and the Premiership. The episode finishes with a look at the Women’s Six Nations momentum and what rugby must do before 2027.


Also in this episode:

● Why AFL pulls 95,000 on a Thursday night

● Rugby union’s visibility problem in Victoria’s media market

● Melbourne Storm pathways hoovering up Pasifika talent

● Super Rugby future: domestic comps then best-on-best

● Referees explaining laws: better flow or inconsistency?

● Women’s Six Nations crowds surge and fan connection grows


PLUS: The panel debates how rugby markets itself, builds tribalism, and competes for young talent before the 2027 Rugby World Cup.


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